From: Valdis.Kletnieks_at_no.spam
Date: Thu Nov 15 2001 - 00:28:17 PST
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 02:15:08 GMT, "D. J. Bernstein" said:
> This effort provides a huge reward: a connection to the Internet! Email,
> the web, and so much more. (Despite this, people complain about the
> effort, and so we have all sorts of automatic configuration systems.)
Yes, but the fact that lots of people do it *without* automatic configuration
shows that your point of "it won't happen unless there's zero cost" is not
true in the real world. People *will* invest effort if needed.
> Now, what exactly is my reward for spending time setting up useless IPv6
> addresses for my perfectly functional IPv4 machines?
The same reward as why people set up perfectly useless IPv4 addresses when
they had perfectly functional NCP addresses. They saw a benefit to doing so,
even if not everybody agreed.
The same reward as why people install mail software that does RFC1894 status
notifications. They saw a benefit to doing so, even if not everybody agreed.
Given that we have historic proof that companies are *more* than willing
to say "If you don't have a Flash plugin, we don't care if you take your
business elsewhere", or "If you don't have IE, we dont care", it may be
a very bad idea to blindly assume that they will keep supporting IPv4
customers after they've moved their own network to IPv6 for whatever reason.
Yes, a company will lose customers if they go to IPv6. On the other hand,
if a company can save $250K a year by going to IPv6 and cleaning up their
NAT jungle across 35 branch offices, and they lose $150K in sales to people
who are neither IPv6-ready nor able/willing to use a proxy/gateway, they're
still $100K ahead,
/Valdis
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